Exclusive Interview | Juliano Rodrigues, General Manager & Head Chef, Out of the Blue Mumbai
/ Editor HospemagHow did it all start? Share your culinary journey with us
My journey with food started pretty early possibly when I was five or six. Born in a modern household to two working parents, where my mother would reach home by late evening and I would get home earlier on, at noon. We had a house help who would fix up meals now and then and on other days, I was left to fix myself a meal. Hunger can definitely push the envelope and make you creative in ways you wouldn’t imagine. I would first skim through my refrigerator to find a quick and easy meal to savor, many-a-time it was a sandwich- bread, butter, and jam (sometimes pickle, don’t ask me why).
I learned very early on not to be co-dependent on anyone for food and devised a way to always fix myself a meal with leftovers and ingredients stored away at home. Whenever I did get a home-cooked meal prepared by my mother, I would devour it and never complain about what was on my plate, that kick-started my love-love relationship with food.
What are your earliest memories of the kitchens you worked in
Earlier on in my career, during my stint with the Rodas Ecotel Hotel, I would devise quick and effective ways to get the cooking condiments, tray ready. To give you an example, instead of chopped garlic, I would slow cook garlic and infuse it in oil, innovations like combining celery with salt, etc, little things that could elevate the taste without much effort. This way I could be ahead of the order service and deliver a consistent product, each time. This really helped me earlier on, especially because at the time I was handling the soup, grill, pasta, and fryer stations, as well as plating the food.
A dish your patrons/guest love
At Out of the blue, we love to experiment with continental cuisine and give it an Indian twist, my customers love the Penne Masala Mafia and Cottage cheese steak Paprika.
A dish that you love but do not have on your menu
The Duck Confit for sure, we currently have it on our seasonal menu and we’ve seen the response it gets. Hoping to include this on our regular menu super soon.
What according to you does it take to become a successful chef?
Having worked in this space for a while, I can confidently say that patience and understanding what your guest wants are the two primary things to bear in mind when curating anything. In the restaurant industry, things take time to come to fruition, we have to pre-plan everything, patience helps you stay focused and organized and helps you deliver on your ideas. You cannot expect everything to happen all at once, there is a process, there is testing, there is client feedback, there is the monetary aspect, and there is the pricing and marketing strategy, they all play a pivotal role in making any idea, a reality.
Secondly, no matter how revolutionary an idea sounds to me, I will always put myself in the customer’s shoes to comprehend whether a client would like a certain product or not. Would they be willing to try out a new menu item just by the sound of it? There is a lot of R&D that goes on behind the scenes to bring a meal to the table.
What advice would you give to a young culinary student?
Pursue your passions. I know it may sound trivial but try to work around things that you are good at. Sometimes it takes trying something to know whether you are good at it. Experience can teach you twice as much as education can. Try to partner with the right companies earlier on in your career to grasp all the necessary knowledge and learnings you need to upskill yourself.
7. Your favourite ingredient is…
Millets especially Fox Millet, it is a great ingredient to use as a base for any meal. It is rich in Vitamin B12, fiber, and protein, it is a great healthy alternative to your regular carbs.
What do you have in store for your guests in the coming months?
we have the release of the new Deli by the blue menu that should go live in the coming months. Great things from the brand are coming your way.
Eating butter out of my grandma's hands while she churned home made white butter every morning for breakfast. Having that when I was three, I clearly remember it. The love had a lot of flavour, better than the ingredients.
In pursuit of a holistic approach to dining, the year 2024 will witness a surge in the popularity of balanced meals. The concept of Thalis, featuring a diverse array of nutrients, will transcend specific cuisines, becoming a prevalent trend.
Each recipe is a creative genius of someone who is willing to think out of the box and that is an important characteristic that a chef should possess and be able to appreciate that same quality in others.
I think to be a successful Chef one needs to have presence of mind as we are playing with different ingredients and we should understand them better and their combinations apart from a passion and love for cooking.
A successful chef is like a passionate artist in the kitchen. They make delicious meals that make your taste buds dance.
Do not ever run after money when you are starting your career. Remember that whatever is taught to you during your academic days, those are very basic and just to create a strong base. With the expertise of your academic learning, you cannot become a Master Chef and cannot claim a high salary. Hence it is your responsibility to work under various Chefs and to learn and when you are learning you cannot run after money.
The challenge lies in finding the delicate balance between creative presentation and ensuring that each component harmonizes with, rather than overpowers, the star of the show - the main dish.
What according to you does it take to become a successful chef? Follow the 3 D's That is -Determination, Dedication, and Devotion, these D's will help you achieve your goals. Also never give up at any time, nothing is impossible.
Good communication and teamwork are needed because cooking is a group effort. Leading a kitchen and a team takes leadership and organization.-Chef Vadim Shin
For aspiring culinary students embarking on this delectable journey, my advice is straightforward yet profound: embrace the virtues of patience and continuous learning.
We are willing to go to great lengths to satisfy the unique, and sometimes unusual, culinary preferences of our patrons, thus ensuring that their dining experiences are truly memorable.
A delicious reminder of the power of food to connect us to our roots and tell a story that transcends time.
The world of kitchens boasts its own array of superstitions and endearing traditions. A standout belief involves stirring dishes counterclockwise, believed by some to bring misfortune. While I approach these with light-heartedness, they contribute to the vibrant mosaic of kitchen culture.
If you were a vegetable, which one would you be, and why?
I think my daughter would agree if I say I would be a potato for being bit round and very versatile if I may say so.
“Embrace hard work, discipline, and time management as this industry requires all these aspects to be a way forward”
DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE, DISCIPLINE & MORE DISCIPLINE
What according to you does it take to become a successful chef?
Willingness to Learn.
Genuine Passion.
Stay organised to stay in control.
Ability to Skilfully Multitask.
Creativity.
Time Management.
Teamwork.
Leadership Skills.
Resilience.
Stamina.
What is one software you would like to see?
A software which can give an insight into each recipe, from calculating the calories, protein, carbohydrates etc, to analysing the effect of each ingredient and giving a deeper understanding of the benefits and health hazards.
There is no substitute for hard work and diligence. One has to hone one’s craft with time, because the food and beverage segment is constantly evolving. Businesses that are able to innovate and stay ahead of the curve will be well-positioned to succeed in today’s competitive marketplace. Those that fail to innovate risk being left behind.
What advice would you give to a young culinary student?
Pursue your passions. I know it may sound trivial but try to work around things that you are good at. Sometimes it takes trying something to know whether you are good at it. Experience can teach you twice as much as education can. Try to partner with the right companies earlier on in your career to grasp all the necessary knowledge and learnings you need to upskill yourself.
Since I come from Nepal, there’s a specific Nepali dish that always reminds me of home - the Sekuwa. It’s a traditional dish mostly made in Kathmandu, where I stay, where the meat is mixed in hard-sought herbs and roasted in a wood fire. It’s those herbs that transfer the flavours into the meat.
One more memory I’d like to share is from my home kitchen. It was probably the first time I was cooking bhindi. My mother had kept diced bhindi for making Bhujiya. As she got busy with other work, I promptly stepped in and asked if I may sauté the okra. Her positive response made me very happy and I started cooking immediately only to realise something was wrong. The okra turned out to be very sticky. Baffled, I asked my mother why that happened, and she smiled and asked if I had washed it? Well, not only had I washed it twice, I had done it after it was cut!
What according to you does it take to become a successful chef?
Passion and your sole reason to exist is to eat (Food), learn, think outside the box, learn-unlearn-re learn and Army commando stamina
Vegan is really going to be big; people are going to be moving a lot towards healthy eating which are are already doing post the pandemic. People are really becoming conscious and choosing the food they want to eat so healthy food will really boom in India and worldwide whether it is plant-based recipes or vegan food.
Practice,Practice, Practice Till you master any skill-Chef Sunil Dutt, Culinary Director at W Goa